Topic: Too Many Sweets!!

I don't know if this is nutrition or humor but the hardest thing for my husband has been to give up sugar! I buy a chocalate bar now and then and we have a soft serve ice cream occasionally but that is it. He was commenting how hungry he was for cookies the other day so on Friday he was on a road trip by himself and he OVER indulged his cravings like a kid in a candy store. He ate a whole box of heath toffee filled cookies, a baby ruth bar, a couple of other small choc. bars and a medium size bag of potato chips. He literally poisoned himself because on Sat he woke up sick to his stomach, weak and he even had a fever. He has not been sick like that for months and I totally blame it on the food- he did too. He said he learned a lesson and really does appreciate the good diet much more. I have been preaching how important it is to eat things that don't stress his liver and I think he gets it now. He's been eating extra spinach for punishment since!! HA!  Mary

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Mary,  I think your post fits in both categories. Ha!   Popeye the Sailor Man can't fight Bluto without his spinach.  Gosh ! I would have been wired for for sound.  Did he fess-up before or after he got sick?
Jeff G.

Take it to the Limit,One More Time! (Eagles)

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Jeff,
He fessed up about the cookies when he got home but I found the other wrappers in the truck the next day when he was sick. Moderation is the key to everything! He just couldn't control himself I guess but he learned that his body revolts against junk food now. It's been trained for quality only I guess!! I ate a little candy bar last week without sharing it and I felt guilty. I won't anymore!! Ha! Take care Jeff! Happy May Day!   Mary

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my craving is United Dairy Farmer Chocolate Malts, Malts, not shakes.  sometimes it's the only thing I can get down, I've been having a lot of heartburn lately.  then again sometimes it gets down and then back up again later...:P

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Thecdr...... You may be lactose intolerant.  Jeff G.

Take it to the Limit,One More Time! (Eagles)

6 (edited by JenBurke Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:43:19)

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Do people with CC metabolize sugars differently?

My dad had an amazing sweet tooth and could put away cake, ice cream, candy, etc. without gaining weight or having any medical problems.

However, a few months prior to his diagnosis, his sugar shot up enough that his doctor had to recommend a revised diet without so many sweets. He stayed on the diet for a bit, got his sugar level drastically down and then went back to sweets (not as much as before though) so that he is in the high normal range.

Now I'm wondering if he should go back to the super strict diet of very few sweets.

I've noticed my dad's appetite has gone downhill, and the weight loss is apparent.

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As we all know now, Sugar feeds Cancer. But, this is all so strange. When Teddy had his Whipple and they took out the head of his Pancreas, he could not tolerate nor did he have a taste for sugar for about 7 months! He used to be a candy & cookie addict! Then his love of "sweets" returned. Now with the new spot of cancer (where his duodenum used to be) a dislike for anything too sweet has again developed.  Also, for those of you with upset stomachs/heartburn, I again want to remind you of our fabulous find...Briosche.
Its an old Italian remedy in a blue plastic bottle at Walgreen's.   When Teddy had his hiccups for months or if he has ajadoo (Italian for heartburn) Brioshe takes it right away when nothing else would work. On another note he starts his IMRT radiation today! It has taken us 3 months to get to today and I sure hope things have not got out of hand. Mmmmmm  One more note: Jeff, I so look forward to your notes! Stay strong as we are all pulling for you!

Teddy ~In our hearts forever~ATTITUDE is EVERYTHING
Any suggestion I offer is intended as friendly advice based solely on my own experience. Please consult your doctor for professional guidance.

8 (edited by JeffG Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:58:43)

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Jen , My reserach shows equal contraversy about the in take of sugar and about whether it makes your cancer cells grow.  The heads of Oncology at Mayo says it's a myth.  However if the liver is not functioning properly it would have a tuff time processing or breaking down the sugar intake which would cause a rise in glucouse count.  Also, having a liver disease can in some cases cause the onset of other diseases of other organs because it 's inability to break down and filter and release certain enzymes. It sound like he is borderline diabetic; has he ever be check for that.  I have worked with diabetics and know their blood sugar levels can change drasitcally within an hour in some cases.  I would certainly cut back to at least half portions or something or try switching to no sugar products of the things he likes and see what happens.
God Bless,
Jeff G.

Take it to the Limit,One More Time! (Eagles)

9 (edited by JenBurke Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:10:02)

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Lainy and Jeff, thanks for throwing light on the subject. My dad is being followed with his blood work for his sugar and liver levels . . . though now I'm wondering if the frequency should increase.

Jeff, interesting about Mayo. I think you're right that the progression of the disease could trigger other health issues involving sugar, so I'll make a point of bringing this up at his appointment.

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HI I am living with CC and found through my own "study" so to speak that sugar intake is not healthy for the liver.I am not a sweet eater by nature.I have however had days where I can't seem to get enough sweets.I control my graving, because as Jeff said, it is harder for a diseased liver to break down the sugar.I choose to live on a high fiber low fat diet along with many foods that I read are good for the liver..My cancer is in stage 4 as I am told, but I find myself feeling great when I follow the diet as well as not eating too much at one sitting and eating more often.Look in your local book stores.THere are many books on the liver and what is good for it!!BUT above all,I truly allow the LOrd to direct me and I keep a great attitude spirit and try to follow the diet. Seems when I waver I don''t feel as well.Tried a steak one night...took two weeks to get over that one...from now on it, fish and small amounts of chicken..anything that is hard on the breaking down process I avoid..oh and dairy products....loved milk and cheese and now no longer can handle them..
Does any one else have some eating tips..let me know

lissa spears

provervbs 3: 5 & 6

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Lissa, my dad also had to give up red meat - it simply doesn't agree with him anymore.

He also started to break up his day into small meals.

Since he started drinking Boost, his energy has picked up.

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I hate to admit that I'm eating anything I want and gaining weight. 

I'm TRYING to eat healthier, though.

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Hello everyone,
I have to say all this about the sugar is new to me!! My mom's oncologist did not recommend ANYTHGING concerning her diet. He did not even say anything about low fat or low sugar. She is eating everything although trying to keep it healthy... Should I tell her to stop sugar altogether? What about drinks? What do you guys drink? (my mom doesn't seem to like water, nor di I smile) I'm guessing that all those sugar free drinks are even worse, no? She keeps drinking massive amounts of cranberry jucie...she calls it her "red wine". What do you guys think?

Mercedes

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Dear Mercedes -- typically, doctors receive no training (or very little) in nutrition.  Ask your oncologist to have a nutritionist speak with you and/or your mom about diet.  My husband was lucky enough to have the hospital nutritionist help him with a plan.  High protein whey powder mixed in food or drink was a plus.  The nutritionist will also be knowledgeable about the sugar issue.  And as Jen mentioned, frequent, small meals were recommended.
Diane

15 (edited by JeffG Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:25:53)

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Hi Mercedes....  I agree whole heartedly with Diane.  The sugar thing I have never changed my sugar intake in 9 1/2 years.  The Mayo website under cancer facts and myths, puts sugar in the myth category.  Certainly no harm in cutting back a little but not completely.  Your body needs sugar, which it does get from other foods other than just granulated sugar.  Personally I would not know what to do, if I could not have my chocolate chip cookies and waffles with syrup on them.  Greasy fatty food I've always avoided except ocassional KFC.  It clogs your ateries.  I guess I eat pretty much normal with a healthy twist to it if I can.

Cheerios,
Jeff

Take it to the Limit,One More Time! (Eagles)

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My dad died at 93, basically very healthy, no hearing aids no glasses!!  When he was 89 the doctor said he eats too much chocolate. He answered, "at my age I need to cut out something?"  Not going to happen. Well I think at our ages, although I am older a little sugar ain't gonna hurt. By the way someone wrote the other day about IBS. I was using the Pink Sweetner then my brother-in-law said oh no, you have to use Splenda then my daughter said oh no you need to use Stivia. For 2 years my stomach was out of control.  2 weeks ago I went back to granulated sugar and all my stomach problems left in 2 days!!!!  Mmmmmmm

Teddy ~In our hearts forever~ATTITUDE is EVERYTHING
Any suggestion I offer is intended as friendly advice based solely on my own experience. Please consult your doctor for professional guidance.

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Thanks everyone!